GUANGZHOU 201026

Taiwan coach calls on WTF to produce evidence to back decision

Taiwanese Olympic-level Taekwondo coach Lee Chia-jung on Thursday urged the World Taekwondo Federation (WTF) to provide credible evidence to back its decision to disqualify Taiwanese athlete Yang Shu-chun at the Asian Games.


WTF Secretary General, Yang Jin-suk.

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Yang, one of Taiwan’s gold medal hopefuls at the 2010 Asian Games, was disqualified during a taekwondo bout Wednesday when the referees ruled that she had inserted extra sensors in her socks to increase her chance of winning.

Yang was competing in the under-49 kilogram division and was pegged as the likely gold medal winner.

The Chinese Taipei delegation immediately protested the decision, saying that Yang had been wrongly accused and that all of her gear had been approved by the federation before the competition.

The controversy was further fueled by the refusal of WTF Secretary-general Yang Jin-suk of South Korea to answer reporters’ questions Wednesday on the details of Yang’s disqualification.

Citing respect for the “personal privacy” of the athlete, the secretary-general was adamant at a post-competition press conference Wednesday that he was not going to discuss “the what or the why” of the WTF’s decision.

The only information he gave was that officials had discovered the fighter had violated the rules and regulations of the sport.

However, the Associated Press reported Thursday that Yang Jin-suk said officials had found palm-sized sensor patches illegally attached to the heels of the athlete’s socks during the bout.

He deflected suggestions of controversy, saying the patches were confiscated on the competition mat so there was no question of a breach of rules by the WTF, the AP report said.

Commenting on the issue, senior sports writer Wu Ching-he said that since all the fighter’s equipment was examined and authorized by the WTF prior to the game, the federation must take part of the blame if Yang Shu-chun was wearing non-regulation foot gear.

Yang Shu-chun was leading 9-0 in the match against a Vietnamese opponent when the bout was halted. Match officials said the Taiwanese athlete was indeed wearing extra sensors in the heels of her socks to rig the electronic tally system.

According to Reuters, the WTF said the sensors were discovered and removed but had been re-affixed shortly before the bout.

The federation said that it has launched an investigation into the case but the disqualification decision stands.

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Source: Focus Taiwan (By Jenny W.Hsu)

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26 thoughts on “Taiwan coach calls on WTF to produce evidence to back decision”

  1. In another news, WTF Referee accidentally discovers first recorded incidence of quantum effect occurring on macroscopic objects.

    1. At 2:28, sensors were taken off.

    2. At 6:28 and onwards, referee picked up the discarded sensors off the floor near the chair.

    So according to WTF, the sensors were re-affixed to the player. However, the player was standing on the mat at 6:28, then what’s the stuff the ref picked up from the floor? According to quantum physics, position of a particle is not absolute. Rather, it’s dictated by the wave function and thus capable of appearing at two radically different places within a very short time span. WTF officials have just made this happen. A tiny step for man, but a giant leap for mankind!

    Next Nobel Physics Prize winner: WTF Ref & Co & all the morons that believe them.

  2. In another news, WTF Referee accidentally discovers first recorded incidence of quantum effect occurring on macroscopic objects.

    1. At 2:28, sensors were taken off.

    2. At 6:28 and onwards, referee picked up the discarded sensors off the floor near the chair.

    So according to WTF, the sensors were re-affixed to the player. However, the player was standing on the mat at 6:28, then what’s the stuff the ref picked up from the floor? According to quantum physics, position of a particle is not absolute. Rather, it’s dictated by the wave function and thus capable of appearing at two radically different places within a very short time span. WTF officials have just made this happen. A tiny step for man, but a giant leap for mankind!

    Next Nobel Physics Prize winner: WTF Ref & Co & all the morons that believe them.

  3. If an athlete comes to a competition with performance enhancing drug and gets caught, even if he does not use it and tests negative later, it is sufficient grounds for disqualification.

    And William Feng should just shut the hell up as he apparently does not know what “quantum effect” means. Don’t babble out of shallow knowledge you gained from your freshmen physics class.
    (Oh I know what he is referring to as I was a physics major as an undergraduate)

    If Feng is a physics major I am confident that taiwan has a very gloomy future in that field.

  4. If an athlete comes to a competition with performance enhancing drug and gets caught, even if he does not use it and tests negative later, it is sufficient grounds for disqualification.

    And William Feng should just shut the hell up as he apparently does not know what “quantum effect” means. Don’t babble out of shallow knowledge you gained from your freshmen physics class.
    (Oh I know what he is referring to as I was a physics major as an undergraduate)

    If Feng is a physics major I am confident that taiwan has a very gloomy future in that field.

  5. @baiyaan

    Tell me one thing I said that’s wrong about quantum physics. Go ahead. Keep your personal attacks coming, too. Please, troll harder.

  6. @baiyaan

    Tell me one thing I said that’s wrong about quantum physics. Go ahead. Keep your personal attacks coming, too. Please, troll harder.

  7. @baiyaan

    If an athlete comes to a competition with performance enhancing drug and gets caught, even if he does not use it and tests negative later, it is sufficient grounds for disqualification.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    WTF accused her of “cheating during the match”, not the crime of “carrying extra sensors” (because there’s no such thing. go read the rule book). You don’t accuse someone of murder for having a gun. The most you can do is accusing him of illegally carrying a weapon. Understand, physics major?

  8. @baiyaan

    If an athlete comes to a competition with performance enhancing drug and gets caught, even if he does not use it and tests negative later, it is sufficient grounds for disqualification.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    WTF accused her of “cheating during the match”, not the crime of “carrying extra sensors” (because there’s no such thing. go read the rule book). You don’t accuse someone of murder for having a gun. The most you can do is accusing him of illegally carrying a weapon. Understand, physics major?

  9. Actually stupid, a sensor is not a particle. Its connection to quantum physics is about as plausible as “beam me up Scottie” is scientific, and oh yeah, maybe that is where you got your “knowledge” from.

    And even if such an incredibly unlikely event happened(it is so unlikely that it won’t happen in a million universes as long as the laws of physics remain the same.) Bayesian inference will point to some other reason even if it is a wrong reason.

    You are just trying to show off your shallow and elementary knowledge of physics;”hey even smart guys like me are supporting Taiwan”.

    LOL, bullshit, man. So phony and corny. You have no idea how corny your BS sounds to anyone who took even an undergraduate quantum mechanics.

  10. Actually stupid, a sensor is not a particle. Its connection to quantum physics is about as plausible as “beam me up Scottie” is scientific, and oh yeah, maybe that is where you got your “knowledge” from.

    And even if such an incredibly unlikely event happened(it is so unlikely that it won’t happen in a million universes as long as the laws of physics remain the same.) Bayesian inference will point to some other reason even if it is a wrong reason.

    You are just trying to show off your shallow and elementary knowledge of physics;”hey even smart guys like me are supporting Taiwan”.

    LOL, bullshit, man. So phony and corny. You have no idea how corny your BS sounds to anyone who took even an undergraduate quantum mechanics.

  11. A butt-hurt little William Hung says
    “WTF accused her of “cheating during the match”,”

    Oh yeah, make that hair splitting distinction. So typical of a Chinese. I have seen the likes of you many times and most of them were Chinese. When you quarrel with your neighbor, if he steps onto your lawn, you make that an issue and the ONLY issue when things don’t go your way.

    Maybe WTF considers the whole process as a match. She clearly stepped onto the matt with those illegal sensor patches. She agreed to take them off, did she not?

    Those were not present in the first inspection and the second inspection generally does not cover the foot area.

    Someone likened it to a graphing calculator in GRE. OK if she passed the inspection at the gate and the second inspection at the door but later pulled it out of her panties just before the exam the examiner may just tell her to put it away for the moment and go ahead with the exam session because he needs time to assess what happened. But that is sufficient grounds for dismissal even if she goes through the exam without that calculator.

    And yes, there is a rule against extra sensors on the heels.
    LOL. The rule book obviously will be less specific but it refers to “proper equipments sanctioned by the Federation” etc.
    In fact it has been specifically instructed in this Asian Games not to put sensors on certain areas and EXTRA sensors? hell no.

  12. A butt-hurt little William Hung says
    “WTF accused her of “cheating during the match”,”

    Oh yeah, make that hair splitting distinction. So typical of a Chinese. I have seen the likes of you many times and most of them were Chinese. When you quarrel with your neighbor, if he steps onto your lawn, you make that an issue and the ONLY issue when things don’t go your way.

    Maybe WTF considers the whole process as a match. She clearly stepped onto the matt with those illegal sensor patches. She agreed to take them off, did she not?

    Those were not present in the first inspection and the second inspection generally does not cover the foot area.

    Someone likened it to a graphing calculator in GRE. OK if she passed the inspection at the gate and the second inspection at the door but later pulled it out of her panties just before the exam the examiner may just tell her to put it away for the moment and go ahead with the exam session because he needs time to assess what happened. But that is sufficient grounds for dismissal even if she goes through the exam without that calculator.

    And yes, there is a rule against extra sensors on the heels.
    LOL. The rule book obviously will be less specific but it refers to “proper equipments sanctioned by the Federation” etc.
    In fact it has been specifically instructed in this Asian Games not to put sensors on certain areas and EXTRA sensors? hell no.

  13. @baiyaan Wow. Obviously a macroscopic object can’t behave quantum mechanically. It’s called sarcasm, genius. Why the fuck would I say it if it actually makes sense in supporting WTF’s story? Clearly it’s lost on you. Your understanding of QM may be okay. What you need is English comprehension.

    As for your other point, ROFL listen to yourself. Stop it. Just stop it. I only have this to offer you:

    “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt”.

    You have just removed all doubt.

  14. @baiyaan Wow. Obviously a macroscopic object can’t behave quantum mechanically. It’s called sarcasm, genius. Why the fuck would I say it if it actually makes sense in supporting WTF’s story? Clearly it’s lost on you. Your understanding of QM may be okay. What you need is English comprehension.

    As for your other point, ROFL listen to yourself. Stop it. Just stop it. I only have this to offer you:

    “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt”.

    You have just removed all doubt.

  15. “What you need is English comprehension.”

    Shorty, you are not in a position to judge.
    I am certainly not interested in learning your ESL gibberish like…- oh, I will just pick one right above – “(the) position of a particle is not absolute”.

    The point always has been that your corny charade was feeble.

  16. “What you need is English comprehension.”

    Shorty, you are not in a position to judge.
    I am certainly not interested in learning your ESL gibberish like…- oh, I will just pick one right above – “(the) position of a particle is not absolute”.

    The point always has been that your corny charade was feeble.

  17. @baiyaan I’m not going to spend more effort teaching you how sarcasm works. It’s okay buddy. We know you’re an idiot. Thanks for proving it, too.

  18. @baiyaan I’m not going to spend more effort teaching you how sarcasm works. It’s okay buddy. We know you’re an idiot. Thanks for proving it, too.

  19. WTF secretary general Yang Jin-suk insisted she had extra sensors on her heals, but when he stopped the match and checked, she clearly did not have any extra sensors. How hard is this to understand?

    Later he goes to say she was not wearing the approve sensor socks. What were the Asian Games Officials and the WTF officials doing during the pre-game inspections? WTF even admitted that she passed the pre-game inspections.

    If they questioned her sensor socks, they shouldn’t have allowed the match to start in the first place. If they can let these things slide so easily during the pre-game inspections, who knows if other athletes have the approve or non approve sensor socks?

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